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Wow, these really are great for class use...

Good grief! What a ...never mind.

On second thought, it occurred to me that you, Kay(3), do not understand course requirements for attending post graduate level classes in the USA? Professors are permitted to dictate the environment and the requirements in order for a student to attend their class. The catch word is "compatible".

According to the course requirements: "Students are required to have an Apple iPad compatible device with the app GoodReader (or equivalent), a registered University student email address, and have wifi access." Further instructions indicate that "there will be no access to external power sources and it is recommended that students have fully charged their Apple iPad while attending class sessions".

Most college students have laptops nowadays, so it's not a stretch to require computer use. It wouldn't make sense to require everyone to buy an iPad, which is why it wasn't credible when the original post said an iPad was required.

I did both my graduate and undergrad degree in the U.S., but long before iPads, lol.
 
On second thought, it occurred to me that you, Kay(3), do not understand course requirements for attending post graduate level classes in the USA? Professors are permitted to dictate the environment and the requirements in order for a student to attend their class. The catch word is "compatible".
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MattiM--
I am having a hard time understanding your statement that Kay does not understand the course work for attending grad school in the USA, when in fact she has.

Yes, I agree that the word, "compatible" is the key. When I returned to Graduate School for my Clinical Doctoral Studies it was mandatory to be equipped with a laptop that had minimum requirements that the curriculum listed. Now returning back for additional Graduate work, the University requirement is now the use of a laptop and/tablet, iPad in order to download, access various sites, note taking, etc. The times have changed for students attending school once again. I have attended 3 Universities and all 3 only mention devices "that fit this minimal requirement" to meet the needs of the coursework involved.

Just my thoughts here.
 
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skimonkey said:
MattiM--
I am having a hard time understanding your statement that Kay does not understand the course work for attending grad school in the USA, when in fact she has.

Yes, I agree that the word, "compatible" is the key. When I returned to Graduate School for my Clinical Doctoral Studies it was mandatory to be equipped with a laptop that had minimum requirements that the curriculum listed. Now returning back for additional Graduate work, the University requirement is now the use of a laptop and/tablet, iPad in order to download, access various sites, note taking, etc. The times have changed for students attending school once again. I have attended 3 Universities and all 3 only mention devices "that fit this minimal requirement" to meet the needs of the coursework involved.

Just my thoughts here.

Up until Kay(3) shared her credentials I did not know that she attended school here in the US. And as she has admitted, this was long before the advent of iPads. I took her comment as challenging my credibility on a class that I am about to take and that I have not had direct experience. I did err when I first posted that an iPad was required and later modified my original post as others have queried me on what I posted.

Kay(3)'s first response struck me as offensive and I took her to mean that I was lying or fabricating or making up such a requirement. But her follow on comment modified that offensiveness. Attending one or two classes a year is a very slow process of attaining a master degree, I can easily say there is nothing at school that can stretch my incredulity when I see what a class requires in order to attend. However, I am incredulous at what passes for proper class attire in some undergraduate classes that I have had to endure in the recent past.

Requiring an iPad is not any more incredulous as requiring the purchase of Kenneth W Clarkson's Business Law: Text and Cases-Legal, Ethical, Global and Corporate Environment: US$301.95 or Frank B Cross': The Legal Environment of Business: Text and Cases: US$282.95 or Constance Bagley: Managers and the Legal Environment: US$290.95. I now have all of these books in my library. The last two law professors that I had that required these books advised that these are great references for the future and they are updated regularly....as if that would sooth the initial pain of purchase!
 
MattIM said:
Up until Kay(3) shared her credentials I did not know that she attended school here in the US. And as she has admitted, this was long before the advent of iPads. I took her comment as challenging my credibility on a class that I am about to take and that I have not had direct experience. I did err when I first posted that an iPad was required and later modified my original post as others have queried me on what I posted.

Kay(3)'s first response struck me as offensive and I took her to mean that I was lying or fabricating or making up such a requirement. But her follow on comment modified that offensiveness. Attending one or two classes a year is a very slow process of attaining a master degree, I can easily say there is nothing at school that can stretch my incredulity when I see what a class requires in order to attend. However, I am incredulous at what passes for proper class attire in some undergraduate classes that I have had to endure in the recent past.

Requiring an iPad is not any more incredulous as requiring the purchase of Kenneth W Clarkson's Business Law: Text and Cases-Legal, Ethical, Global and Corporate Environment: US$301.95 or Frank B Cross': The Legal Environment of Business: Text and Cases: US$282.95 or Constance Bagley: Managers and the Legal Environment: US$290.95. I now have all of these books in my library. The last two law professors that I had that required these books advised that these are great references for the future and they are updated regularly....as if that would sooth the initial pain of purchase!


Apparently the current lawsuit against Apple and several large publishers addresses this issue in a kind of convoluted way. It seems that the allegated collusion was an attempt to counteract Amazon's then current lock on the major ebook market. It is my understanding that the publishers didn't like Amazon cutting prices in an apparent attempt to undercut their stranglehold on the book market.

In any event, the textbook market is objectional in a great many ways---as is the state of higher education. Well, education in general!

The use of technology can be a good thing, but all too often our educational establishments resort to it as a relief valve, refusing to deal with the real issues.

On-line exams have always concerned me, but I am really high on the possibilities of the iPad in the classroom.
 
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