Well i tried restore network settings, the the restore liading line came up followed by apple boot logo but to my surprise when i went to blutooth settings my blutooth speaker was still there from a couple of days it hadnt removed it and icade still wouldnt connect :-( gutted but worth a try and i very much appreciate your info that 1 bud, so whats the next step then ? I have no idea what to try next please help guys, anything goes ;-)