On the fence about jailbreaking? One man's opinion on why you should.

[Max]

Wow, what a great thread! Thanks Deenybird! However, this can go on forever in the spirit (no pun intended ) of PC vs. Mac! Just remember to play nice! lol

 

[Dav]

Brilliant thread deenybird, just a thought maybe put in your first post that jailbreaking is done at your own risk? Just a thought. But all in all very good write up

 

[USBill]

Who cares if it voids the warranty? You can easily restore your iPad before taking it back. I had to do that when I owned my iPhone.

Assuming that the restore works, and that Apple doesn't realize that you invalidated your warranty with the jailbreak. Apple has refused to provide warranty service to a smoker because his Mac smelled of cigarette smoke when he returned it for service on a defective drive. It's not hard to imagine that they would refuse to fix a jailbroken iPad.

If you decide to jailbreak, you should begin with the assumption that your iPad is disposable. The odds are you'll be OK, but there aree no guarantees.

 

[Matth3w]

How would the restore not work?

 

[rowan]

How would the restore not work?

Um, yeah, my question exactly.

When MikesTooLz said:

Correct a proper resotore can leave no traces, but most regular users wont performe a proper restore.

I went, WTF? (Silently, to myself, so no one would be offended.) But, seriously, WTF? What's a "proper restore," Mr TooLz, and how is it done? Jus' askin...

 

[Matth3w]

Some people are just paranoid for no reason. I've done this before with the iPhone. No issues. I'd love to see proof that a restore sometimes doesn't work. Hell, you could delete the cydia app and those pimply faced kids at the apple store aren't really going to know...let alone a full restore via iTunes.

 

[Max]

How would the restore not work?

Um, yeah, my question exactly.

When MikesTooLz said:

Correct a proper resotore can leave no traces, but most regular users wont performe a proper restore.

I went, WTF? (Silently, to myself, so no one would be offended.) But, seriously, WTF? What's a "proper restore," Mr TooLz, and how is it done? Jus' askin...

In iPhone terms a proper restore refers to a clean restore to Apples original firmware. Its not the first time I see iPhone lingo travel into iPad diskussions.
For the iPhone there is something called pwned firmware, which is created with the jailbreak (and optional unlock) already done, and then used in Itunes to restore your phone. To my knowledge theres no pwn yet for the iPad, but for alot of us ol iPhone breakers the lingo sticks.

No point in getting hooked up on how people phrase their responses, theres so much else to talk about!

 

[Matth3w]

Just use the stock restore, you'll be fine is my point.

 

[Obfuscation]

will jailbreaking affect battery life at all? I won't be using any themes or any background running utilities....

 

[Matth3w]

If you aren't using SSH or backgrounder, no. Some people have reported SSH as draining battery life, so I turned it off.

 

[MikesTooLz]

How would the restore not work?

Um, yeah, my question exactly.

When MikesTooLz said:

Correct a proper resotore can leave no traces, but most regular users wont performe a proper restore.

I went, WTF? (Silently, to myself, so no one would be offended.) But, seriously, WTF? What's a "proper restore," Mr TooLz, and how is it done? Jus' askin...

Performing a restore does whipe everything off of the device. But at the end of the restore it will prompt the user asking if this is device XXXXXXX or is this a new device. If they say yes this is xxxxxxxxxx it can toss proof back onto the device of it being jailbroken even though the device has not been rejailbroken.

They have software at the geniouse bar to check the logs, history, ect...

If you want to test it out, perform a restore on your device and when it asks if this is xxxxxxxxxx or a new device say yes. Then launch the Xcode organizer and you will most likely see some logs pop up for this just restored non jail broken device from things like cydia and other jailbroken apps.

 

[USBill]

How would the restore not work?

How does anything fail? By something unexpected happening.

Having supported computer users and their problems for 19 years I have seen a great number of "how did THAT happen?" events. Two possibilities that come to mind are a corrupted download of the OS file from Apple, or a flawed load that leaves the iPad corrupted and unable to receive the new copy of the ROM. I've seen more than one device fail on a flash update, including a 3Com switch that cost WAY more than an iPad.

"Things fall apart. It's scientific." - David Byrne/Talking Heads

 

[rowan]

… at the end of the restore it will prompt the user asking if this is device XXXXXXX or is this a new device. If they say yes this is xxxxxxxxxx it can toss proof back onto the device of it being jailbroken even though the device has not been rejailbroken.

They have software at the geniouse bar to check the logs, history, ect...

Soooo...I want to say, "No, this is a completely new device." Then there's no digital paper trail, is that right?


Also: Some other guy's experience with jailbreaking here...

iPad Jailbreaking Woes...

 

[MikesTooLz]

Soooo...I want to say, "No, this is a completely new device." Then there's no digital paper trail, is that right?


Also: Some other guy's experience with jailbreaking here...

iPad Jailbreaking Woes...

Correct

 

[gouletjo]

It is like everything else, wait for another spirit version and everything should be fine. If your an expert well you can try the first jailbreak version but im not an expert so I usually wait for a second or a third version.

thanks for the thread