PaulCarleton
iPF Noob
I was only demonstrating that it is possible through third-party applications to make changes to it. I'm surprised nobody has and actually I'm thinking about it. Cool to know that there's a jailbreak break version that will.
I compared my iPad 2 and iPad 3 playing the same 720p video simultaneously and side by side last night. In scene after scene, I strongly perceived my iPad 2 as having better picture quality (at 720p, the resolution didn't matter).
The colors seemed true and natural and realistic on the iPad 2. They seemed unnatural on the iPad 3. How utterly disappointing! I was biased to want to be favorably impressed by the iPad 3 and the 2 had the significantly better display.
What was going on? The iPad 3 colors were too greenish. If we had an advanced display setting (of course Apple won't allow that), I'd be looking to shift the hue over to the red a bit and away from the green.
How bad is it? Am I some overly critical videophile? It's bad and no, I don't think so. The major selling point of the iPad 3 is the retina display. The trade-off is cost (for those replacing their older iPad) extra weight, thicker size, and slower battery charging. And what is gained? Regarding color fidelity, the display is seriously flawed and there's no setting to be changed.
On certain scenes (various videos) faces and hair have a greenish cast. Once noticed, it's obvious and annoying. Grass looks cartoonish with a neon glow, while it appears completely natural on the iPad 2 -- this is the easiest test. Water appears greenish, not blue. It's very evident.
I did a google and found this, so I'm not alone:
Falk Lumo: Apple iPad 3: A first screen evaluation
I suppose Apple could fix this with an upgrade. But, it's not even an acknowledged problem. I don't know, but I guess it's just a bad setting choice and affects all 3's. If so, didn't anyone test this? I noticed right away.
As things stand -- I'm just digesting this disappointing discovery -- I see no sense in keeping my iPad 3 with an overall worse display. Crisp text is good, but video is where it should wow and it doesn't... it uggs instead.
I compared my iPad 2 and iPad 3 playing the same 720p video simultaneously and side by side last night. In scene after scene, I strongly perceived my iPad 2 as having better picture quality (at 720p, the resolution didn't matter).
The colors seemed true and natural and realistic on the iPad 2. They seemed unnatural on the iPad 3. How utterly disappointing! I was biased to want to be favorably impressed by the iPad 3 and the 2 had the significantly better display.
What was going on? The iPad 3 colors were too greenish. If we had an advanced display setting (of course Apple won't allow that), I'd be looking to shift the hue over to the red a bit and away from the green.
How bad is it? Am I some overly critical videophile? It's bad and no, I don't think so. The major selling point of the iPad 3 is the retina display. The trade-off is cost (for those replacing their older iPad) extra weight, thicker size, and slower battery charging. And what is gained? Regarding color fidelity, the display is seriously flawed and there's no setting to be changed.
On certain scenes (various videos) faces and hair have a greenish cast. Once noticed, it's obvious and annoying. Grass looks cartoonish with a neon glow, while it appears completely natural on the iPad 2 -- this is the easiest test. Water appears greenish, not blue. It's very evident.
I did a google and found this, so I'm not alone:
Falk Lumo: Apple iPad 3: A first screen evaluation
I suppose Apple could fix this with an upgrade. But, it's not even an acknowledged problem. I don't know, but I guess it's just a bad setting choice and affects all 3's. If so, didn't anyone test this? I noticed right away.
As things stand -- I'm just digesting this disappointing discovery -- I see no sense in keeping my iPad 3 with an overall worse display. Crisp text is good, but video is where it should wow and it doesn't... it uggs instead.
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Apparently the following weeks have a Hue Problem :
week-3
week-6
week-5
week-1
week-10
week-7
week-9
augustya said:Here, this is a link Edited by Moderator - link removed, see Admin/Moderator posts later in this thread that will help you find out which week of production your iPad-3 has come out of. Can you please put your week of production so that others can understand which week Production Batch is having this problem of yellow Hue. Same applies for people having a Backlight Bleeding problem, please post your week of production.
Also you can have a look at this link Edited by Moderator - link to external forum removed people have reported here on which week has maximum Hue
Apparently the following weeks have a Hue Problem :
week-3
week-6
week-5
week-1
week-10
week-7
week-9
But after 30 years of dealing with video displays I can guarantee you that no two TVs, no two laptops, no two LCD screens come out of the factory alike.
Thanks for all the posts and I've read them all.
I made some new observations yesterday that may change everything (at least regarding my iPad 3 and maybe all in general). I compared my iPad 2, iPad 3, Laptop, and Sony HDTV using test patterns and videos. I have an Apple TV, so I played the videos on the TV through iTunes or by mirroring my iPad 2 or 3.
Well... my iPad 3's display closely matched my Sony HDTV. That was a surprise. The iPad 2's display was off. However, the iPad 2 closely matched the laptop. So, iPad 3 = Sony HDTV; iPad 2 = Laptop.
Example: the iPad iBooks app showing an empty bookcase. This is bright on the iPad 3, and darker-orangish on the iPad 2. I mirrored both from the iPad 2 and 3 to my Sony TV (to eliminate any source difference -- there was none). Which would it most closely match? The iPad 3 -- almost exactly. And the iPad 2? Not even close.
The same result occurred with ocean scenes and grass scenes and test images: my Sony HDTV more closely matched my iPad 3 (in all cases) rather than the 2. With most scenes and most colors, there was little if any difference between the iPad 2 or 3 or the Sony TV. A noticeable difference mostly occurred with shades of blue.
An easy comparison test for the iPad 2 and 3: the Yahoo logo (more violet? on the 3); craigslist (the blue links are a deeper indigo on the 3 -- some have called it purple but it's not quite that much on mine-- and more of a baby, pale, blue on the 2).
If I get a chance to get to an Apple store to compare, I'll try to bring up Yahoo and craigslist and the iBooks app's bookshelf.
So, the above observations change everything! If my iPad 3 has a bad display, so does my Sony HDTV -- which I've long appreciated for its pq. The Sony HDTV has it's hue set to 0 (neither red nor green shifted). And, I've changed the color temp from neutral to warm to cool with not that much of a difference: the iPad 3 still is the better match.
Yet, my laptop more close matches my iPad 2.
For now, I have no intention of returning my iPad 3. In fact, watching a high resolution video last night, its display was stunning and had that "wow" effect (like I had when I first got my Sony HDTV a few years ago). Whites are very bright and white and colors are rich across the spectrum. I don't think there's anything wrong with my iPad 3 display. It (and my HDTV) just have a subtle color difference with my iPad 2 (and laptop). As reported elsewhere, it may well be that the iPad 3's colors are the more accurate. I consider my Sony HDTV as a better reference standard than my laptop.
peejay1977 said:<img src="http://www.ipadforums.net/attachment.php?attachmentid=12023"/>
This pic is my iPad "3" on the left and my old iPad 2 on the right, have to say I'm less than impressed with the "whites".