new Ipad user, already hating Apple

[robertlc]

hang around these forums a bit and you'll see that this isn't the typical insult-fest that most forums are.

Well said ~

Let's all just simmer down! The OP admitted he is frustrated so let's see if we can un-frustrate him. Is that even a word?

Reminds me of Cheri Oteri's "Simma Down Na" character from SNL.

 

[robertlc]

I love the closed nature of iOS.
I'm sick to death running free tech help for family and friend's computers. The iPad just works.

It's like the lure of Socialism. "Give up your freedoms and you will be taken care of. No more worries."

I'd rather have the freedom to choose what I want to do, even if it entails more work and problem solving.

Ooooh. The first post comparing iPad users to Socialists.

Well, you know whenever the comparison to Nazis is made, this thread will be over.

 

[iCrank]

Now it would have been better coincidence if i had gotten the 3gs like you did, because of multitasking, compass and 256mb ram instead of the puny 128 mb ram i got on my 3g. Cant wait to get the mac book pro or air, prefer the solid state drives which give no heat, no fan and the virus problems i have faced recently on my laptop.

Anyway here i took a picture of my apple devices using my old sony ericsson phone

Sent from my iPad using iPF, using iOS 4.3.2

I like that case which is it

 

[Nancybout]

I am new,hardcore windows user than hopped to my iMac,than of course iPhones,android phones,nook( love e readers) Itouch,and various iPods n i homes etc....I LOVE iPad.I have the first one and no desire to get the next one...I liked what I seen when I used the regular one....if threes a third,I'll buy that one.
One thing,I adore,is no viruses that vie come across of yet,no mess no freezes no nothing!!
there are Apps for pretty much everything youncould want,and Safari is a great browser.I use laptop for other reasons,it's a different device but I find me w the iPad much more.

There is a lot of things u can do w a windows system...that said,this is not windows lol

 

[madcapjim]

Just my opinion, but Apple is all about making products that require little or no knowledge to pick up and use out of the box.
A 5 yr old can use the iPad, so can an older person who might be intimidated by many products on the market. This is the good/bad about Apple. I love my ipad2, but completely understand why some don't.
I'm not giving up my pc, love it as well, but there is no reason people can't enjoy both without knocking one or the other. It's just a choice, nothing more.

 

[madhatter61]

My god, does Apple think every user is a complete technical moron??

I have been a PC tech/network admin for years but have never owned a Mac or any Apple product other than my 10 year old daughters ipod touch (I'm beginning to think she must be a typical Apple user)

How do users put up with this cr@p?? I mean seriously, you have to jailbreak the POS to do a function so basic as set a default browser??

As soon as I started using Perfect Browser, I knew I had no more use for the much too basic Safari. I didn't think much of that, I knew I couldn't uninstall Safari but I figured of course I could set PB as the fefault (I can't EVER remember a time that wasn't possible in any PC). Well, nope: Apple won't allow that, I guess they are too afraid of the users breaking the thing...........

~John

I guess it is different strokes for different folks. On the basis of this post I went after Perfect browser. After two days, I just wasted my money IMO. I much prefer Safari... Of course I have been using Safari on my Mac Mini I have Google on my PC's. I build em also. But, I've built my last PC. I could care less about customization that so many Geeky folks think is important. With my focus on Mac ... and it does take a bit of time ... I don't deal with virus at all ... I am careful where I go on PC's. Everything is just seamless and EZ with Mac stuff. That is why we went with iPad. Best of luck ... hope your rants don't affect your health.

 

[RAC]

How do users put up with this cr@p?? I mean seriously, you have to jailbreak the POS to do a function so basic as set a default browser??

I know what you mean and this was how I felt when I first started using the iPad. The "Walled Garden" mentallity (closed file system etc) are hard to accept at first.

I am not an Apple apolopgist but I have gradually found ways to do almost everything I need to do on the iPad and very seldom fire up my PC these days.

I believe that the iPad has to be thought of as a cloud computing device. There are obvious cloud services such as DropBox, gMail, Picasa etc and I use a Western Digital NAS as a personal cloud. Apps such as FileBrowser provide viewing access to files on the local NAS and I even find myself using iSSH to copy flles to and from the NAS using Linux commands.

Years ago Apple's slogan was "Think Different" and I think that this applies to the iPad.

to sum up.

I like...
Instant startup
Always ready web browser and email client
Great place to store/view PDFs, spreadsheets etc
Long battery life
No heat
Small form factor

I don't like...
The "Walled Garden", becoming less of issue as I find ways around it
No Flash, only because I can't access all web sites I need to
Poor support for photographic workflow
Lack of video out (available on iPad 2 as Video Mirroring)
Disappointed with AirPlay/Apple TV so far, hopefully this will improve

Survival essentials...
FileBrowser, GoodReader, Numbers, Pages, SplashTop, iSSH apps
Western Digital MWBE NAS with Linux shell exposed
ZaggMate keyboard
Apple TV 2 (in the hope that the available functionality will improve)
External reserve battery (such as Mophie), to keep going when the battery gets low.

 

[tzimisce]

It's like "you are too dumb to make choices so do it our way". It's even reflected in the attitude of their store staff. They have the art of "smiling smugness" down to a fine art.

Absolutely not true at all. Perhaps your personal experience was less than stellar, but please do not generalize for all their people. The staff of the two Apple stores within living distance of where I am have been nothing but helpful and friendly whenever I've had to talk to them.

 

[Blueface]

It's like "you are too dumb to make choices so do it our way". It's even reflected in the attitude of their store staff. They have the art of "smiling smugness" down to a fine art.

Absolutely not true at all. Perhaps your personal experience was less than stellar, but please do not generalize for all their people. The staff of the two Apple stores within living distance of where I am have been nothing but helpful and friendly whenever I've had to talk to them.

The store in the mall in my town is amazingly friendly and helpful.
I have been there numerous times and not once can I say a bad thing about them.

 

[madhatter61]

So what do you like about Perfect Browser. How does it compare to safari and why is it so much better?

after I posted this query, I just looked up Perfect Browser on Google and there are my answers. I just hadn't heard about this browser. We just got our iPad2 recently and we are also learning.

I read thru the description, so now I am a bit smarter... if you want to use Perfect can't you just put it in one of the 6 or 7 locations on the master icon position. Just move Safari up into the main page like all the other icons. I did that with iTunes as I don't listen to music much. push and hold on the icon until it starts to wiggle ... then you can move them where you want. When done just push the home button and everything is set.

Simply moving the icon positions does not change the default browser. When an app redirects you to a web page or HTML file, Safari will still be the application that launches. Without a jailbreak, I don't believe there is a way to change the default browser.

It isn't that I was trying to change the default browser ... only the position of the icons. I left Safari exactly where is was and put Perfect right next to it. I have since relegated Perfect to the back burner and probably won't use it again. Just an experiment. I like the tab approach in Google and thought that would be nice for the iPad. But I like the cover flow arrangement of tabs a lot better and ends up getting me where I want to go. I also like the fact that Safari is practically built into the iOS and has interactive features I really like. FWIW

 

[madhatter61]

Wishful thinking

~what would be awesome is a setting similar to Cydia, where one chooses between User, Hacker and Developer on first start.

I've been reading your posts, and from my perspective you already have these options. You go to Cydia and JB and away you go. Then you get to spend hours, and hours, figuring out the impact of the changes. Just guessing. Different strokes for different folks.

I just choose to learn what is offered ... then I can better decide if making it operate differently is worth it or not. Most of the time I find that different doesn't make it better. FWIW

 

[SweetPoison]

Wishful thinking

~what would be awesome is a setting similar to Cydia, where one chooses between User, Hacker and Developer on first start.

I've been reading your posts, and from my perspective you already have these options. You go to Cydia and JB and away you go. Then you get to spend hours, and hours, figuring out the impact of the changes. Just guessing. Different strokes for different folks.

Too funny.

 

[Mimshacktee]

Well I love my iPad and I'm looking forward to getting the iPad2. I'm a first time apple user too but since I found jailbreaking i have no regrets whatsoever. My Pc hardly does anything nowadays.

 

[Seadog]

I think you will find that a lot of Apple fans are people that are tired of working on PCs. Several years ago, my dad decided he needed a computer. I wanted to get him a Mac, but my brother, nephews, and others had PCs and he wanted one. His argument was that since I live 150 miles away, my brother, maternal uncle, would do any troubleshooting and fixes. So, I got him a Dell box with monitor and wireless keyboard. My brother moved to Cali, my uncle is senile, and my nephews are worthless. They have screwed it up more than fixed it. So I have spent more time working on it than on my own iMac, MacBook Pro, Apple TV, iBook, iPad, and Time Machine combined. And his Dell is responsible for someone spoofing my home e-mail account. My best friend who is a tech, makes a point of stopping by my dad's house when he goes through the area. As soon as I can afford to, he is getting a Mac Mini.

My point is, there are many of us who are tired of working on computers when they want to enjoy using a computer. Knowing what to do, and wanting to do it, are two different things. Ask any professional chef what he wants, and it is usually eating dinner out instead of being the one to make it.

 

[Mimshacktee]

My point is, there are many of us who are tired of working on computers when they want to enjoy using a computer. Knowing what to do, and wanting to do it, are two different things. Ask any professional chef what he wants, and it is usually eating dinner out instead of being the one to make it.

That's you and me both.