Official iPad3 Jailbreak Thread

[zphone]

Actually no. We need to be intellectually honest when we make these statements. The User Agreement explicitly states that the warranty is voided upon changing the software. Something that's "voided" can never be fully reinstated. Now - where we "beat the system" is that when you do an
iTunes restore, how could any Apple rep ever know we were ever Jailbroken. So it's not that the restore "gets us our warranty" back - it doesn't. It "hides" our having played with their software. So we're really "getting away with" something warranty voiding. In the end - if you know how to restore your phone - the distinction I'm making is a moot point. But you used the term "warranty instantly restored" which is not technically an accurate statement. Additionally a friend of mine that works for Apple tells me of new jailbreak detection tools they have. Apple wound be foolish to try and clamp down on it too hard - but evidently it's now possible to detect a "once JBed" phone after its been restored.

Your friend is BS'ing you. Unless apple is keeping some kind of secret log of what you put on the system that cannot be erased with a full firmware wipe -- hello lawsuit -- there is no tool that can possibly tell because there are NO permanent changes.

I've even taken my JAilbroken iPhone to the apple store and they recommended I restore if I want them to support me.

If we are being intellectually honest then I'd have to ask the same of apple and they would have to re-instate the warranty as no permanent change was made to the supported device. If they would claim some metaphysical difference then I have no problem with this sleight of hand morally or otherwise.

 

[pianoman]

Your friend is BS'ing you. Unless apple is keeping some kind of secret log of what you put on the system that cannot be erased with a full firmware wipe -- hello lawsuit -- there is no tool that can possibly tell because there are NO permanent changes.

I've even taken my JAilbroken iPhone to the apple store and they recommended I restore if I want them to support me.

If we are being intellectually honest then I'd have to ask the same of apple and they would have to re-instate the warranty as no permanent change was made to the supported device. If they would claim some metaphysical difference then I have no problem with this sleight of hand morally or otherwise.

We live in a world these days, my friend, where there's all sorts of "sleight-of-hand" morally. Everyone just makes their law for what's right for them and if they stay within their "own" laws they feel fine.

Bottom line - any attempt at changing Apple's iOS is against their user policy. It's "wrong" according to them. The degree to which they work tirelessly to get updates out to close the exploits shows their disdain for JBing. And then there's that pesky little legal wording in the User Agreement.

This is a circular argument that will lead nowhere and is off topic in this thread. I, for one, will always remind newbies that JBing voids their warranty. Proceed at their own risk. And people like you will tell them there's no risk. And round and round we'll go.

Peace!
(PS- my friend is a 20 year veteran of Apple employ. Not these kid geniuses in an Apple Store. Let's just say a boot rom is never "fully" wiped ;-) )

 

[Mickey330]

Well not so fast. We need to make intellectually honest statements. The User Agreement explicitly states that the warranty is voided upon changing the software. Something that's "voided" can never be fully reinstated. Now - where we "beat the system" is that when you do an
iTunes restore, how could any Apple rep ever know we were ever Jailbroken. So it's not that the restore "gets us our warranty" back - it doesn't. It "hides" our having played with their software. So we're really "getting away with" something warranty voiding. In the end - if you know how to restore your phone - the distinction I'm making is a moot point. But you used the term "warranty instantly restored" which is not technically an accurate statement.

Additionally a friend of mine that works for Apple tells me of new jailbreak detection tools they have. Apple would be foolish to try and clamp down on JBing too hard - but evidently it's now possible to detect a "once JBed" phone after its been restored.

Well, if you're going to play with semantics...

Yes, you void your warranty by modifying the installed iOS on your iPad. Done. You've voided the warranty and I'll not argue with that. As long as the iPad is jail broken, you have no warranty.

However, when you restore the iPad and thus remove the jail break, you are putting on a NEW version of the iOS. In fact, that is the only way to remove a jail break - install a new version of the iOS. You are not hiding evidence of a jailbreak, you are installing new software. Therefore, as it IS new software and you are not or have not modified it, because you've left it stock, then the warranty comes in to play for that new software.

So, again, there is no issue. Because, yes, the warranty IS instantly restored when you restore the iPad to stock. End of.

Marilyn

 

[pianoman]

However, when you restore the iPad and thus remove the jail break, you are putting on a NEW version of the iOS. In fact, that is the only way to remove a jail break - install a new version of the iOS. You are not hiding evidence of a jailbreak, you are installing new software. Therefore, as it IS new software and you are not or have not modified it, because you've left it stock, then the warranty comes in to play for that new software.

So, again, there is no issue. Because, yes, the warranty IS instantly restored when you restore the iPad to stock. End of.

Marilyn

Now who's playing with semantics.. ;-). Rationalizing is a finely-honed skill with most of us. Well done!

But just re-read the User Agreement, Marilyn. It doesn't leave room for your "new load in of the iOS" rationale (though nicely conceived!). The warranty voiding action is any "tampering with the device" including its OS. The wording is air tight. It's Apple after all!! Lol!!

 

[pego99]

What does pianomans post have to do with the topic of this thread. The iPad 3 jailbreak is the topic. Not discussions about jail breaking and warrantys and apples policies on the subject.

 

[KevinJS]

What does pianomans post have to do with the topic of this thread. The iPad 3 jailbreak.

I think it's ongoing. Whenever the subject of jailbreaking comes up, warranty issues and legality are sure to follow. Pianoman has been around long enough to know how to keep it civilized.

 

[iRager]

Being a long time jailbreaker I can see where pianoman is coming from, but I do agree this isn't the thread for this discussion

 

[pianoman]

Being a long time jailbreaker I can see where pianoman is coming from, but I do agree this isn't the thread for this discussion

Agreed. My apologies! Back to hoping we get the JB Soon!!!

 

[LeonKaiser]

Can we conclude that at this time, it is safe for iPad 3 owners to update to 5.1.1, without losing jailbreak-ability in the near future? Been holding off for a while on this update. Thanks!

 

[iRager]

Can we conclude that at this time, it is safe for iPad 3 owners to update to 5.1.1, without losing jailbreak-ability in the near future? Been holding off for a while on this update. Thanks!

Best to wait until the final jailbreak is released

 

[Adyeng82]

Can this be trusted?

I am dying to get my new iPad jailbroken and have come across this website, is it legitimate and they say they can jailbreak the new iPad with to 5.1.1?

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Regards
Ady

 

[Gabriel1]

I am dying to get my new iPad jailbroken and have come across this website, is it legitimate and they say they can jailbreak the new iPad with to 5.1.1?

Edited by Moderator - external link removed

Regards
Ady

Hi, I have removed the reference to the site you posted for a number of reasons.....

- that site is charging customers for the JB and I am not aware of legitimate sites that charge.
- the site, in it's first few sentences advocates piracy, something that we do not permit discussion of here.
- this forum is blessed with many experts who have provided guides detailing what and what is not currently possible and how to do it.
- we also have rules about links, especially to commercial websites.

I am sure that the folks in this section will be able to help you but your best bet is to start with the excellent stickies which give guidance and updates on the current (and past) jailbreaks.

Good luck in your search.

The Archangel

 

[Mickey330]

Here's a good rule of thumb to keep in mind about jail breaking: If you have to pay for it - it's not legit.

There are other clues but that one is a huge flag. If you see a site offering a jail break for a fee, it's either a scam and there is no jail break or they are offering to sell you the jail break tool(s) that are already offered for free by the real jail break community and developers.

So, as The Archangel has suggested, keep an eye on this very thread for news. If it's news and it's legitimate, it'll be here. First post, even...

Marilyn

 

[Adyeng82]

No worries thanks for the advice, I am virgin poster on here so should have had a proper look at the posting rules :-/, will keep an eyeye on here as this forum is brilliant

 

[f4780y]

pod2g's latest update indicates the jailbreak will be with us within "days". Great news